Thus, this particular YouTube
category is a strategic battlefield where many of the dispensational,
Premillennials can be engaged, challenged and won to an optimistic,
perspective. With the wane of
Premillennialism, other Dispensational assumptions may also be called into
question like a row of falling dominoes.
This is where the Dispies hang
out. Many of these first-page videos
have huge viewership. A few of our
selections have over 2-1/2 million views.
Not surprising, because books about Bible prophecy are the largest
category of books sold in the Christian market.
Dispensationalists like to point out that about ¼ (26.8%) of the Bible
is prophecy (4).
Thus, it is a great recruiting
ground, that is for the most part being left unplowed. Postmillennialists have yet to appear on the
field. We can no longer afford to ignore
this opportunity. Starting from the
Premill’s point of interest in the prophetic Scripture, the discussion/debate
can be easily expanded to encompass various aspects of covenant, cultural
application.
To get the ball rolling The YouTube
Prophecy Initiative entered a postmillennial response to 40 key videos during
the months of October and November, 2014 under the username
“AntiFederalist.”
After two months we tallied the
response and found that a substantial number remained near the top of the
comment pile for a surprisingly long time.
Here are the metrics for the first 33, when they had been posted between
one and nine weeks during Phase I:
- Sixteen of 33 posts were still in the top 7 screens,
- But 9 of 33 had been removed,
- That left 5 further than 7 screens down, most in the 7-20 screen range,
- Seven of 33 had received unsolicited replies.
We discovered that the videos fall
into a handful of categories based on
the structure of the Premillennial model.
The general topics include:
- End-Time Preachers: Hagee, Martin, Lahaye, MacArthur, Lindsey, Haller, Anderson, Van Impe, Wilkerson, Randolph,
- End-Time Movies: Left Behind, The Remaining,
- End-Time Characters: AntiChrist, Beast, Abomination of Desolation, Nephilim
- End-Time Timeline: Prophecy, Bible prophecy, Rapture, Great Tribulation, Second Coming, Israel.
- End-Time Signs: Dispensationalism, Premillennialism,
Ideally, comments should be relatively short,
but we’ve succumbed to the temptation to enter longer, article-length
posts. The advantage of these new posts
is that they remain visible to the casual scanner, not buried in the 2nd
tier of interaction, although that interchange is definitely needed also. We have given most of them a provocative,
ALL-CAPS headline in the upper left corner. Things like;
·
YOUR TIMING IS OFF – THE
TRIBULATION IS ANCIENT HISTORY:
·
IDENTITY OF ANTICHRIST FOUND HIDDEN
IN BOOK OF REVELATION:
·
JESUS CHRIST – THE FOUNDER OF
REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY:
·
MOVIE REVIEW:
·
THE TEMPLE OF DOOM:
·
RAPTURE FEVER, MORE DEADLY THAN
EBOLA:
·
LOSING THE DATING GAME:
·
OP-ED BIBLE COMMENTARY:
All readers are invited to join
Phase II of The YouTube Prophecy
Initiative. The next phase is to
Scan the following list of YouTube
videos and choose a few of special interest to you. Simply copy and paste the title into the
YouTube search box and you will be taken instantly to the video. Comments appear directly below, where you can
scan the first several screens for a debate in progress or start one of your
own by simply responding to some Premillennial comment near the top of the
pile.
65 Selected Premillenial Video Title Listings
End-Time Preachers: Hagee, Martin, Lahaye, MacArthur,
Lindsey, Haller, Anderson, Van
Impe, Wilkerson, Randolph:
David Wilkerson’s last sermon on
the last days
Glenn Beck & John Hagee End
Time Bible Prophecies
Hagee Hotline: John Hagee on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
(March 4, 2014)
4 Blood Moons by John Hagee
(9/27/2014)
Pastor Hagee: Crisis in Ukraine is Beginning of the End of
the World
The End Times: Ten Upcoming Events
in Bible Prophecy - Charlie Campbell [Removed]
Dr. Walter Martin: The Tribulation
& the Church, PT 1 of 6
Pastor Anderson Reveals Pre-Trib
Rapture Deception
Hal Lindsey – The Rapture
Pastor Steven Anderson "The
Book of Revelation: Chapter 1 of 22"
TBN Praise the Lord With Tim
LaHaye, Irvin Baxter, and Rick Joyner
The End of the World – Revelation
1....Stephen Anderson
Larry Randolph Prophetic Word From
Voice of the Prophets
Jack Van Impe – Was Isis Prophesied
For End of Days?
Why Every Calvinist Should Be a
Premillennialist - John MacArthur
Chuck Missler - Biblical UFO's and
the Coming Deception
Dave Hunt – Last Days Bible
Prophecy: all nations against
Israel
End-Time Movies: Left Behind, The Remaining:
Left Behind Official Trailer #1
(2014) - Nicolas Cage Movie HD [apparently removed]
Left Behind Official Trailer (2013)
Nicolas Cage, Thriller HD
The Remaining Official Trailer 1
(2014) – Alexa Vega Horror Movie HD
The Remaining Official Trailer #1
(2014) - Alexa Vega Horror Movie HD
Left Behind - Official First Clip
(2014) Nicolas Cage Movie HD [Removed]
Left Behind 2014 Official Trailer +
Trailer Review – Nicholas Cage: Beyond
the Trailer
The End Times – Entire Movie
After the Tribulation- The
Pre-Tribulation Rapture Fraud Exposed Official Movie
End-Time Characters: AntiChrist, Beast,
Abomination of Desolation,
Nephilim:
Book Of Daniel: 7 HEADS, 10 HORNS
PROPHECY Fullfilled NOW~!!
Abomination of Desolation Finally
revealed
The Antichrist: End of the World [Removed]
America In Bible Prophecy – Second
Beast of Revelation 13
Who is the Beast In the Book of
Revelation?
Come Out Of Her, My People!
An Urgent Prophetic Warning –
Suzette’s Dream
Nephilim Giants Prophesied Date of
Return
Nephilim: True Story of Satan, Fallen Angels, Giants,
Aliens, Hybrids, Elongated Skulls & Nephilim
Identity of the Antichrist Revealed
The Name of the AntiChrist 666
Is the Antichrist alive today?
End-Time Timeline: Prophecy, Bible prophecy,
Rapture, Great Tribulation, Second
Coming, Israel:
Dispensational Premillennial
Timeline
719 Settling the Pre, Mid and Post
Tribulation Controversy Part 1
Pretrib Rapture Lie Put the Church
to Sleep
Documentary Explaining End Times –
What The Bible Has To Say
Israel Invades Gaza – Bible
Prophecy Reveals Coming Devastation
It’s All Part of the Plan: 2016 – The Great Tribulation
Israel Fulfilling Bible Prophecy
Armageddon
Countdown – Pastor Doug Batchelor
26 Prophetic Events In Exact
Sequence Before Christ’s Return
John MacArthur - Daniel 9
(interpreting Bible prophecy literally)
End-Time Signs: Dispensationalism, Premillennislism:
The Veil is Lifting in all Realms - prophetic events September 2014 (timeline)
2014 Breaking News CMM Bible
prophecy current events last days news [removed]
October 2014 Breaking News The
final hour Last Days End Time Prophecy Update
Bible Prophecy Is Happening Now –
2014-2015
THE BIG EVENT 2014-2015: PROPHECY
HAS NOW BEGUN [Removed]
Earth changing end time signs and
events 2014-2015 prophecy has begun
Signs of The End of the world 2013
MUST SEE!!!
Endtime biblical signs and
beginning of sorrows – February 2013
These videos were selected on the
basis of three primary criteria: 1) 1st
page YouTube, 2) relatively large number of views, and 3) relatively small
number of comments. There are currently
very few Postmillennial comments under any of these videos.
As few as 10-20 Postmillennial
advocates could dominate the first-page debate on key YouTube videos in the key
prophetic categories. They would stand
out like a beacon in the sea of Premillennial disinformation. These video sites can become a hotbed of
Premillennial / Postmillennial debate.
This can be done with surprisingly
little effort. 20 people devoting 15-30
minutes a week to these posts could have a dramatic effect. The impact is exponential because they will
reinforce each other’s comments and help out on difficult questions. Plus, it seems that active or lengthy interaction gets pushed
higher in the stream of comments or stays higher longer and is less likely to
be deleted.
Rules
of Engagement
- Try to keep posts short, about 2 or 3 paragraphs. Short also has the advantage of forcing your readers to focus on a single topic. If you present 3-4 ideas, they can choose to focus on one and ignore the rest. Better to come back later with other points.
- Be polite and respectful, even when provoked. If somebody starts name calling, it’s usually best to just point out “tsk, tsk…an ad hominem attack. If you don’t have a good argument you can always fall back on name-calling.” Constantly ask yourself, “Am I in help mode or in attack mode?”
- We don’t have to be churlish when the truth is so obviously on our side. All we have to do is state the truth and ask a question. Questions are good. Here’s an example:
OK, you are saying the Great Tribulation is
in our future. The big question is: Does the Bible place the Great
Tribulation in OUR future?
Could you please look at Luke 21:36 - Jesus concluding statement in the Olivette Discourse -- and tell me if you agree or disagree with this observation:
Jesus told the 12 apostles to pray that THEY could escape all the events of the Olivette Discourse He had just enumerated, therefore these events (including the Great Tribulation (Lk 21:22 = Mt 24:21) all occurred during the lifetime of the 12 apostles in the 1st Century. Would you agree or disagree?
Luke 21:36 in New ASV reads: "But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Could you please look at Luke 21:36 - Jesus concluding statement in the Olivette Discourse -- and tell me if you agree or disagree with this observation:
Jesus told the 12 apostles to pray that THEY could escape all the events of the Olivette Discourse He had just enumerated, therefore these events (including the Great Tribulation (Lk 21:22 = Mt 24:21) all occurred during the lifetime of the 12 apostles in the 1st Century. Would you agree or disagree?
Luke 21:36 in New ASV reads: "But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."
- After you feel comfortable in the pool of 65 selected videos feel free to branch out on your own into a few other premillennial video sites not listed. Once you’ve elicited some response invite others to join you.
- Sometimes a more aggressive than usual post can provoke some good interaction, as long as it is directed to the Premillennial theory in general and not to an individual. For example….
The pervading spirit of this video is that
of the 10 spies who brought back an evil report to Moses. Woe is us --
it's the beginning of sorrows. Stop whining -- that was before the
destruction of Jerusalem and the temple (Lk 21:36)
-- 2000 years ago. The Bible promises that in "the last days"
before the 2nd Coming the nations "will beat their swords into
plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks" (Is 2:1-4). The
"last days" IS before the 2nd Coming.
But this movie is all about doom & gloom, the giants are too big and the walls are too high. Is it any wonder that God is bringing judgment on this generation of faithless Christians who strip Him of his Kingship until some indefinite point in the future and refuse His Great Commission. As if the all-powerful Christ is incapable of seeing to it that most of the nations are discipled, not destroyed.
But this movie is all about doom & gloom, the giants are too big and the walls are too high. Is it any wonder that God is bringing judgment on this generation of faithless Christians who strip Him of his Kingship until some indefinite point in the future and refuse His Great Commission. As if the all-powerful Christ is incapable of seeing to it that most of the nations are discipled, not destroyed.
- Always conclude every post with a statement like: For more information read “Last Days Madness” by Gary DeMar, “The Beast of Revelation” by Ken Gentry, and “Paradise Restored” by David Chilton. Or substitute your favorites.
- Be on the lookout for opportunities to minister to spiritual need. For example….
DogLover705
AJ “I am a child, and I am not
religious will I be taken and redeemed
if I ask jesus and god into my heart, my parents also refuse to take me to
church, someone help me”
“Yes,
Jesus said that everybody must humble themselves and have the faith of a child
to receive the kingdom of heaven. Paul
the apostle said that, ‘whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
saved.’ The wages of sin is death and
Hell. Pray to Him in faith believing
that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for your sins so you don’t have
to go to Hell when you die. At that
moment God the judge will declare you not guilty. Then read the Bible as though it was a letter
to you form God your Father. There are
other friendly people on this site to talk to and answer your questions. God bless you.
Summary
Summary
Postmillennialism can recover its
former prominence in the prophetic world by concentrating as many supporters as
possible in online discussion and criticism of key Premillennial videos. Premillennialism must be debunked before
Christians will acknowledge Christ as de facto King in the present age. Rather than expending a lot of effort
debating obscure points of eschatology, we should focus on posing Van Tillian
type challenges. Such questions
challenge the autonomy of the Premillennialist for denying rationality and
twisting the Word of God.
- Jesus said “all these things will shortly take place in Luke 21: 32-36?” On what authority are you contradicting the sworn testimony of the Son of God?
- John told the 7 churches to whom he wrote his Revelation letter to “count the number of the Beast…666.” How were they supposed to count the number of the Beast if he wasn’t alive in the 1st Century? Why are you ignoring the historical context?
- John said that Jesus is “the ruler of the kings of the earth” and that “He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father.” On what authority are you denying that Christ is King in the present age?
- John told his first readers that he was writing of things that “must shortly come to pass…for the time is near.” (Rev 1:1-4). If somebody told you that they were going to stop by your place in the near future, would you take that to mean 2,000+ years from now? Why are you rejecting a literal interpretation of this clear time marker?
- The Parables of the mustard seed and the leaven state
clearly that the kingdom is growing gradually to fill the whole
world. On what authority are you
denying the veracity of Jesus’ parables?
**********
Let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able
to overcome them. (Numbers 13)
A Project of New Geneva Leadership Academy
In
Conjunction With www.KingsWayClassicalAcademy.com/homeschool-program,
(1) (from Edwards, NY 1957) in
July 1996 by John R. Lenz for the Bertrand Russell Society.
(2) Trout & Ries (McGraw-Hill
Book Company: New York, St. Louis, San
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Cyrus I. Scofield, The Scofield Bible Correspondence School, Course of Study
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(4)
(Dispensationalism Today [Chicago, IL:
Moody press, 1965],p.86).
(5)
Charles C. Ryrie, The Living End:
Enlightening and Astonishing Disclosures about the Coming Last Days of
Earth (Old Tappan, NJ: G. Putnam’s
Sons, 1970)
(6)
(Wikipedia)
(7)
Charles L. Feinberg, Premillennialism or Amillennialism, p. 51.
(8)
Floyd E. Hamilton, the Basis of Millennial Faith, pp. 38-39.
(9) Quoted by www.albatros.org
(10) “The Encyclopedia of Biblical
Prophecy” by J. Barton Payne, Quoted by
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